Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Re: Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Postby Joe » 31.08.2016, 11:52

boco wrote:Currently WSUSOU installs the complete Rollup as Prereq.

Getting non-security updates installed als "prereq" is bad, especially because the rollup breaks other stuff. I need a INI switch, which only installs security updates on newly installed machines. I know others want WSUSOU being a complete replacement for Microsoft Update, but I use it to install security updates offline.

WSUSOU will use certainly use the security-only package by default. Despite the optional shit and Telemetry, there's usually NO reason to not install security fixes.

It already doesn't, which is a problem. I know it needs a functioning WU agent and I found a solution by using only KB3102810 alone to fix the WU agent memory/cpu-load problem and by blacklisting everything optional released post-2014 (Windows 7 mainstream support ended Jan 2015 anyway).
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Re: Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Postby aker » 31.08.2016, 16:28

The problem is, that some "optional" updates are required for WU to work. If we don't use our current update list, the update search would take > 10 hours per run.
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Re: Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Postby Joe » 31.08.2016, 16:57

aker wrote:The problem is, that some "optional" updates are required for WU to work. If we don't use our current update list, the update search would take > 10 hours per run.

This is weird because, because WSUSOU never took ten hours for searching for updates, at least for me, I used it since 2015 because of that problem with the WU control panel.
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Re: Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Postby boco » 01.09.2016, 01:55

The Rollup is installed only because it contains the WU client. abbodi1406's (only the WU client) do fix the problem on my machines at least. Since they aren't official MS packages, including them in WSUSOU might be nigh impossible.

Another thing I recently found out is that IE11 will not install without KB2882822 (iTrace Relogger interface). Had to unblock that one.
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Re: Microsoft Slashes Windows 7 And Windows 8 Support

Postby Joe » 01.09.2016, 09:58

boco wrote:The Rollup is installed only because it contains the WU client. abbodi1406's (only the WU client) do fix the problem on my machines at least. Since they aren't official MS packages, including them in WSUSOU might be nigh impossible.

As mentioned I fixed the problem on all my machines with an earlier hotfix. I'm not sure, if WSUSOU ever included that one or if it ever got offered by Windows Update itself.

The issue seems to be that MS broke it again with a later hotfix which supersedes this one. On top of that, the later hotfix still gets offered as "Important Update" in WU. So if you just fixed WU and then just turn on fully Automatic Updates it gets broken again. The new rollup doesn't seem to be in WU, it might appear in October.

Another thing I recently found out is that IE11 will not install without KB2882822

At least this is one of the classic hotfixes available separately from the time when Win7 was still in mainstream support.
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