Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Raegar » 11.12.2019, 05:00

Hi,

I'd like to preface this post with my appreciation for this software. Truly a great application, thank you!!!

I have been working with both version of WOU (9.x and 11.x). I've made some excellent progress in understanding how it works, and also utilizing custom files for static and excluded updates. I've also created an entirely new custom batch script that is called, to handle some fringe scenarios that WOU currently does not, an example: Installation of Word, Excel and PowerPoint Viewers from 2003/2007 + their respective service packs and/or updates -- a combination of which will be executed depending on what is already installed.

But this is not what I'm requesting help with. A few months ago, I used v9.2.5 to download wxp media and saved it. Very recently, I used v9.2.6 to download the same wxp media, so now I have 2 different copies. I've created a VM with a clean install of Windows XP with SP3 and no other updates, to perform the test below. Besides the usual installations like IE8, RootCerts, DirectX, WMP11, and .NET Frameworks:
- When I use the media built with v9.2.5, there are approximately 160-170 additional updates that are installed
- When I use the media built with v9.2.6, there are only 26 additional updates that are installed (see below)
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Tue 12/10/2019 22:18:39.80 - Info: Detected state of service 'Windows Update': Running (start mode: Manual)
Tue 12/10/2019 22:18:57.89 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb958644-x86-enu_5c135a8dae5721849430afe27af255f83e64f62b.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:02.45 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb2347290-x86-enu_de6572122c6323cc343a9273ee0d24188b240a32.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:07.27 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4012598-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:11.16 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4012583-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:16.38 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4022747-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:25.95 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\IE8-WindowsXP-KB4018271-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:31.25 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4018466-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:36.05 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB3197835-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:40.89 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4024323-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:45.84 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4025218-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:50.58 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4024402-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:54.46 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\WindowsXP-KB4019204-x86-Custom-ENU.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:19:59.70 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb4500331-x86-custom-enu_d7206aca53552fececf72a3dee93eb2da0421188.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:04.63 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb898461-x86-enu_e8e139341e1a6c535ddf2db57052c71d19fc7249.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:09.64 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb2749655-x86-enu_81e0108b1a83bc558dc2aee86e40eca769c5e9d8.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:16.04 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb971029-x86-enu_c5a9081a6d7a0ba32848782ca6f4e4031cdb595f.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:21.78 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb968389-x86-enu_60547c9ff654ed09c9343b3096e726eaf44e2259.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:29.18 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb961118-x86-enu_3c7fea5bd8d44bd1c11a0d33240cfedaa026f59f.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:34.46 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb952287-x86-enu_5bee5928c09f4ee44bc41cab109022cec820e5ff.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:39.91 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb951978-x86-enu_c4f54a2ade0b013fee8c71efcf60fd412dc0cd8c.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:45.14 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb2345886-x86-enu_f0473cd9468a3585a5da8e906ab58ad95d1ded2d.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:50.46 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb970430-x86-enu_862d51f1d8e9ae7e08db9bb4b57e0841521a98fb.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:20:55.61 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb975467-x86-enu_703673b065074bb9dd7d849f420e52ea0d343f8d.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:00.70 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb2808679-x86-enu_3b48f4913204d1d3353a4831f1b3e2e7d74cf26e.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:05.78 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\ie8-windowsxp-kb2598845-x86-enu_cb0093da2dcc2413c01b871c929d9ba425eddef9.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.29 - Info: Installed ..\wxp\enu\windowsxp-kb2492386-x86-enu_faf6a2d18dd48898b7534359b0cf211696a5e46d.exe
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.32 - Info: Installed 26 updates
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.35 - Info: Registered log file display
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.35 - Info: Restored Winlogon registry hive
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.39 - Info: Restored System policies registry hive
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.44 - Info: Unregistered recall
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.46 - Info: Disabled autologon
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.46 - Info: Deleted registry reference to WOUTempAdmin profile
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.46 - Info: Registered deletion of WOUTempAdmin profile
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:11.46 - Info: Registered deletion of recall directory
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:13.86 - Info: Deleted WOUTempAdmin account
Tue 12/10/2019 22:21:13.90 - Info: Ending WSUS Offline Update

If I run the Windows Update after each scenario, I can verify that when only 26 updates are run, Windows Update shows over 140 still missing...Very puzzling
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby boco » 11.12.2019, 09:23

viewtopic.php?p=29965#p29965

Please read the post by the WOU Admin. The old XP WUA cannot deal with the new MS catalog, anymore. Thus, Windows XP is unable to determine missing updates. WOU is useless for XP, now. That's exactly the reason why the ESR has been abandoned for good.

If you have an old ISO with a still working catalog somewhere, keep it!
Microsoft update catalog: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/
Windows Install media download: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Raegar » 11.12.2019, 15:24

That clears up a lot of confusion on my part, and will save me time trying to further troubleshoot something that clearly cannot.

Is this a matter of just using the older wsusscn2 file (from my previous media) onto the new media, or is it not as simple as that? Either way, it's mostly for my own knowledge. I happen to have been lucky in that I kept versions of the media...meaning I do have a good working version which I'll convert into an ISO and save.

Thanks again!
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Dalai » 11.12.2019, 15:59

If you, or anyone else, needs an older catalog file, just contact me. I've "collected" almost all of them since October 2015. Here's a list of all files I have:
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Name                     Size          Date
wsusscn2 [2015-10].cab   136.446.936   02.10.2015 00:42
wsusscn2 [2015-12].cab   150.101.596   08.12.2015 12:39
wsusscn2 [2016-01].cab   154.503.008   12.01.2016 23:31
wsusscn2 [2016-02].cab   160.382.314   09.02.2016 10:25
wsusscn2 [2016-03].cab   164.387.012   23.03.2016 17:56
wsusscn2 [2016-04].cab   168.251.960   28.04.2016 12:16
wsusscn2 [2016-05].cab   171.683.362   25.05.2016 00:02
wsusscn2 [2016-06].cab   175.336.382   17.06.2016 07:08
wsusscn2 [2016-07].cab   178.327.820   12.07.2016 16:36
wsusscn2 [2016-08].cab   181.564.188   09.08.2016 18:51
wsusscn2 [2016-09].cab   186.665.312   14.09.2016 18:38
wsusscn2 [2016-10].cab   193.261.086   27.10.2016 14:07
wsusscn2 [2016-11].cab   201.419.112   09.11.2016 19:15
wsusscn2 [2016-12].cab   206.689.966   13.12.2016 23:42
wsusscn2 [2017-01].cab   212.685.810   12.01.2017 08:36
wsusscn2 [2017-02].cab   209.404.298   19.02.2017 14:06
wsusscn2 [2017-03].cab   217.061.128   14.03.2017 22:02
wsusscn2 [2017-04].cab   223.280.912   11.04.2017 12:43
wsusscn2 [2017-05].cab   200.766.880   09.05.2017 16:19
wsusscn2 [2017-05]#2.cab   203.329.392   10.05.2017 15:28
wsusscn2 [2017-06].cab   207.420.240   11.06.2017 19:34
wsusscn2 [2017-07].cab   218.451.232   14.07.2017 12:32
wsusscn2 [2017-08].cab   229.427.074   07.08.2017 14:35
wsusscn2 [2017-10].cab   250.591.818   17.10.2017 15:18
wsusscn2 [2017-11].cab   263.765.322   11.11.2017 17:27
wsusscn2 [2017-12].cab   277.669.252   13.12.2017 18:28
wsusscn2 [2018-01].cab   293.672.566   08.01.2018 08:47
wsusscn2 [2018-02].cab   303.138.514   14.02.2018 11:18
wsusscn2 [2018-03].cab   319.748.156   04.04.2018 07:01
wsusscn2 [2018-04].cab   335.852.558   10.04.2018 20:29
wsusscn2 [2018-05].cab   352.543.170   15.05.2018 08:30
wsusscn2 [2018-06].cab   369.771.820   21.06.2018 19:03
wsusscn2 [2018-07].cab   387.879.126   11.07.2018 02:53
wsusscn2 [2018-09].cab   423.728.532   11.09.2018 13:57
wsusscn2 [2018-10].cab   442.435.014   10.10.2018 15:04
wsusscn2 [2018-11].cab   462.039.712   14.11.2018 16:10
wsusscn2 [2018-12].cab   482.287.090   11.12.2018 12:39
wsusscn2 [2019-01].cab   517.107.432   07.01.2019 15:16
wsusscn2 [2019-03].cab   540.147.276   12.03.2019 13:19
wsusscn2 [2019-04].cab   563.111.068   06.04.2019 22:15
wsusscn2 [2019-06].cab   524.195.940   11.06.2019 13:00
wsusscn2 [2019-07].cab   549.809.862   09.07.2019 06:48
wsusscn2 [2019-08].cab   575.688.696   13.08.2019 04:35
wsusscn2 [2019-09].cab   603.323.452   11.09.2019 01:25
wsusscn2 [2019-09]#2.cab   634.075.212   03.10.2019 14:44
wsusscn2 [2019-10].cab   666.346.524   09.10.2019 18:59
wsusscn2 [2019-11].cab   698.958.680   12.11.2019 11:20
Note: The size uses German thousands separators (dots instead of commas).

But keep in mind that the catalog is only one part of the equation. If MS removed some downloads or changed the URLs, you're out of luck.

Regards
Dalai
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby aker » 11.12.2019, 18:23

I think, I‘ve got an wxp-glb ISO of wsusou 9.2.1 somewhere here (created 04-2014).
Will share, if interested.

[edit]
One correction: it has been created 2016, but with a catalog from 2014
Does anyone know, how to share a 17GB ISO file?
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Dalai » 11.12.2019, 19:21

aker wrote:Does anyone know, how to share a 17GB ISO file?

Split it in 1000 MiB parts and upload it somewhere, e.g. filehorst.de (or one of the usual one-click hosters).

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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Raegar » 11.12.2019, 20:57

For what its worth to anyone that comes reading this thread in the future, I did a quick test today with the following results:

* Downloaded a fresh copy of Windows XP media, using v9.2.6 - ran on a Windows 10 computer
* Replaced/overwrote the wsusscn2 file with a previous version (in my case the file was: ~603MB and was downloaded approximately on September 10/11th)
* Ran the Installer and verified that all ~172 updates (dynamic + some statics I've defined) were successfully installed, and there were no errors in the logs
* Ran the Windows Updates afterwards to verify that no unknown remaining updates were available for download/install - all good!

PS: Thanks to all of you guys for your help and offering, what appear to be critical files for Windows XP - though I do agree we should all move on and past XP :D :D
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby aker » 11.12.2019, 22:27

Be warned: WU doesn‘t work for XP anymore (or at least not the way it should).
An unpatched XP SP3 just gets a hand full of updates from WU, while a slipstreamed media (created around 2014) contains > 200. The result WU shows might not be corrent.

If you‘re interested I‘d share my wsusou XP-ISO with you.
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby Raegar » 12.12.2019, 01:22

Absolutely! I'd like that very much, thank you
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Re: Incorrect # of Updates Installed between WOU versions

Postby boco » 12.12.2019, 02:43

Would be great, however, there's the language problem. What language is the ISO made of? Personally, I'm using en-US only, as many things still available in the net are only for that language.
Microsoft update catalog: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/
Windows Install media download: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media
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