WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Office

WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Office

Postby jmcaree » 28.10.2021, 05:33

Hi All
I have a few questions that I can't seem to find the answer any where either on the gitlab or this forum.

1. I understand that the latest enablement package are included as part of the download process/iso creation for windows 10. I can't find any information on how the install of the package is handled if it is automatic or manual, can I exclude new packages such as 21H2 but I want to keep 20H2 for various reasons. Are there instructions anywhere that detail on how to enable/disable certain enablement executables. Having a hard time finding the 20H2 enablement package/download location. I noticed it is not included in the 12.5.1 version. I have not upgraded to 12.6 yet.
2. The Office 2016 iso has been enabled for 64bit and for some reason on the 12.5.1 version of WSUSoffline CE I continuously receiving the error message. Am I doing something wrong with the new version of WSUSOffline CE? Is there a new way of patching Office 2016 x64bit. This is not the consumer version but a VL verson.
Wed 10/27/2021 21:13:54.93 - Info: Catalog date: 10/13/2021
Wed 10/27/2021 21:13:54.96 - Info: Medium build date: 10/28/2021
Wed 10/27/2021 21:13:54.99 - Info: Medium does not support Microsoft Windows (w100 x64 enu)
Wed 10/27/2021 21:13:55.01 - Error: Medium neither supports your Windows nor your Office version
Wed 10/27/2021 21:13:55.68 - Info: Ending WSUS Offline Update - Community Edition
3. Can we continue to post questions here or do we post in the new location? Wasn't sure.

Thank you for all the work that you do.
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby boco » 28.10.2021, 10:53

1. Needs to be answered by @aker or one of the other devs.

2. Your Office ís most certainly a Click-to-Run (C2R) Office (most consumer and some Volume versions are). Click-to-Run does not use Windows Update but another update channel. WOU cannot detect nor update C2R installations.
There is also a traditional MSI-based installation of Office 2016 (Volume), this one is supported.

https://office-watch.com/2016/click-to- ... w-to-tell/

3. Sure, as long as the forums stay up, they can be used. Direct bug reports or feature requests should be make in the new location on GitLab.
Microsoft update catalog: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/
Windows Install media download: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby aker » 28.10.2021, 18:39

1.
wsusouCE does not automatically upgrade via enablement package as long as a specific version is supported. At the moment only 1903 is automatically upgraded to 1909. All 1904x versions (2004, 20H2, 21H1) are not upgraded in any way.
The current version (12.6) downloads the enablement package for 21H1 and you can select in UpdateInstaller, if you want to update 2004/20H2 to 21H1 (option in UpdateInstaller). The current master (12.6.1 b2) currently behaves the same way.
As 2004 will be out of support in December, I decided to rewrite the mechanism for upgrading using these enablement packages. wsusouCE 12.6.1 will behave as described below starting 01/2022: If the user does not select the feature upgrade, 2004 will be upgraded to 20H2 (the oldest supported one), while 20H2/21H1/21H2 are untouched. If the user selects the auto upgrade, all of them will be upgraded to the most recent one (should be 21H2 at that point).
Most likely I‘ll keep all links for the enablement packages as static links (.\static\ StaticDownloadLinks-w100-19041-x64/x86-glb.txt) as they aren‘t that big except for 20H2 (but that decision is not final yet).

2.
As @boco said, you might be running a Click-to-Run version of Office.
I documented, how to find out, if it is a MSI or C2R one here:
https://gitlab.com/wsusoffline/wsusoffl ... o-Run-(C2R)

3.
I usually take a look at both locations. As I‘m a little busy at the moment it might take some time for me to answer or work on something.
Wer Rechtschreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten oder an den Meistbietenden versteigern. / Everybody finding a misspelling is allowed to keep or sell it.
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https://gitlab.com/wsusoffline/wsusoffline/-/releases
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby boco » 28.10.2021, 19:21

@aker: Do you cater for the fact that some SKUs are retired earlier than others? Usually, Enterprise(+IoT), Education and ServerRdsh are supported longer.
Microsoft update catalog: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/
Windows Install media download: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby aker » 28.10.2021, 20:52

@boco
As far as I know, this does not apply to all of these "enablement packages".
See https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro and https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-enterprise-and-education
Windows 10 Home and Pro
Version 21H1 May 18, 2021 Dec 13, 2022
Version 20H2 Oct 20, 2020 May 10, 2022
Version 2004 May 27, 2020 Dec 14, 2021

Windows 10 Enterprise and Education
Version 21H1 May 18, 2021 Dec 13, 2022
Version 20H2 Oct 20, 2020 May 9, 2023
Version 2004 May 27, 2020 Dec 14, 2021


What would you say, how should wsusouCE handle the case "20H2"?
I actually don't want to hardcode the string "Enterprise"/"Education"/.. or similar. There has to be some way to do this dynamically.
Wer Rechtschreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten oder an den Meistbietenden versteigern. / Everybody finding a misspelling is allowed to keep or sell it.
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https://gitlab.com/wsusoffline/wsusoffline/-/releases
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby boco » 28.10.2021, 21:57

Keep to the business EOL dates. Unsupported SKUs will not install the updates AFAIK, not applicable. A bit of thinking from the user is required, this ain't Apple.
Microsoft update catalog: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/
Windows Install media download: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/15088/windows-create-installation-media
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Re: WSUSOffline CE Questions related to Windows 10 and Offic

Postby jmcaree » 29.10.2021, 19:02

Update on the Office Issue
Here is a snipit from the log file after I installed everything from the Office 2016 64 bit ISO except for OneDrive and Outlook
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.04 - Info: Starting WSUS Offline Update - Community Edition - v. 12.5.1
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.09 - Info: Option /updatecpp detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.13 - Info: Option /updatercerts detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.18 - Info: Option /instdotnet4 detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.21 - Info: Option /verify detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.26 - Info: Option /showlog detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:00.30 - Info: Option /monitoron detected
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.32 - Info: Found Microsoft Windows version 10.0.19042.1288 (w100 x64 enu)
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.34 - Info: Found Microsoft Windows Software Licensing Management Tool info...
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.38 - Info: Name: Windows(R), Enterprise edition
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.40 - Info: Description: Windows(R) Operating System, VOLUME_KMSCLIENT channel
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.41 - Info: License Status: Notification
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.43 - Info: Notification Reason: 0xC004F056.
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.45 - Info: Found total physical memory: 4 GB
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.46 - Info: Found Servicing Stack version 10.0.19041.1220
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.48 - Info: Found Windows Update Agent version 10.0.19041.1288
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.49 - Info: Found Windows Installer version 5.0.19041.1237
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.51 - Info: Found Windows Script Host version 5.812.10240.16384
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.52 - Info: Found Internet Explorer version 9.11.19041.0
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.52 - Info: Found Edge (Chromium) version 94.0.992.50
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.54 - Info: Found Edge (Chromium) Updater version 1.3.133.5
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.55 - Info: Found Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 version 0.0.0.0
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.57 - Info: Found Windows PowerShell version 2.0
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.59 - Info: Found Microsoft .NET Framework 4 version 4.8.04084 (release: 528372)
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.60 - Info: Found Windows Management Framework version 5.1.19041.1
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.62 - Info: Found Windows Defender definitions version 1.303.25.0
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.63 - Info: Found Microsoft Office 2016 Word version 16.0.4266.1001 (o2k16 x64 enu sp0)
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.69 - Info: Catalog date: 10/13/2021
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.73 - Info: Medium build date: 10/20/2021
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.74 - Info: Medium supports Microsoft Windows (w100 x64 glb)
Fri 10/29/2021 10:37:11.76 - Info: Medium does not support Microsoft Office


Also after running the cmd to add 64 bit support, I noticed that the custom file for 2016 is empty on both 12.5.1 and 12.6

Also want to add that the group is only installing Skype 2016 64bit. They feel that the offline tool should be able to patch Skype. What is the opinon on this?

Thank you for all your help with this issue, and everything that you do.
Last edited by Dalai on 29.10.2021, 20:52, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Added QUOTE tags around the log output
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