update entered into endless mode

Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby ivanz » 09.09.2019, 02:22

Dalai wrote:@ivanz:
Did you test with both updates expanded, as aker suggested above?

Regards
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Hello Dalai, As I mentioned in previous post, the update kb3173424 is not applicable for Windows 2012 R2 standard English version. So I couldn't apply aker's instructions.
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby aker » 09.09.2019, 10:18

Most likely WUA reports that (as a newer Servicing Stack most likely is the reason for that message).

I intentionally told you to do apply both updates using DISM as this allows to bypass the supersedance check (performed by WUA). All relevnt compatibility checks will still be applied.
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby ivanz » 10.09.2019, 08:10

It seems the topic runs into deadend.

The good thing is wsusoffline update can install newer hotfixes well. The only issue is we will miss "Nothing to do!". :)
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby aker » 10.09.2019, 10:34

If you could provide the output of the attempt to install the "not applicable" KB3173424, I/we would get an error message, which tells a little more than just "not applicable".
In the case I currently think about, this test might also fix the problem of wsusou finding KB3172729 over and over again.

The update with the ID KB3172729 internally contains two MSU files:
- windows8.1-kb3173424-x64_9a1c9e0082978d92abee71f2cfed5e0f4b6ce85c.msu (Servicing Stack 6.3.9600.18384)
- windows8.1-kb3172729-x64_e8003822a7ef4705cbb65623b72fd3cec73fe222.msu (SecureBoot dbx update)
Both of them need to be installed for the Windows Update Agent to detect KB3172729 to be installed, even if the KB3172729 MSU actually is installed.
:arrow: http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=kb3172729%2C%20server%202012%20r2

As the system most likely alread has a newer Servicing Stack update applied, Windows Update will refuse to install the older one. But because of MS doing strange things sometimes Windows Update will still list KB3172729 as KB3173424 (the older Servicing Stack) is not installed.
I want you to install KB3173424 using DISM as this bypasses the version check done by the Windows Update Agent and install an older Servicing Stack update, even if a newer one is installed (don't worry, the older one will just be copied to the component cache and be registeres as installed; it will not overwrite newer files).

If this fixes the issue, we could implement a function into wsusou, which will prevent this from happening.
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby ivanz » 10.09.2019, 17:47

Dear Aker,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I didn't know much about Dism and manual hotfix installation.

After I applied hotfix kb3173424, the issue is gone. All 5 servers got lovely "Nothing to do!".

Cheers!!
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby aker » 10.09.2019, 18:38

Thanks for the feedback.
This reply may cause a change in wsusou as this is an issue easy to fix.

@WSUSUpdateAdmin
It looks like, that I was right with my assumption, I PMed you about.
Could we force-include kb3173424 (as CAB) using the "wupre"-lists?
I'll add the links to the Servicing Stack topic as soon as I finished downloading and taking a look at the new updates.
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Re: update entered into endless mode

Postby boco » 11.09.2019, 03:23

+1

If it is that easy to fix, it should be in.

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Working around MS bugs, again...
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