Office 2013 patches for January?

Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby administratorte » 20.01.2018, 00:53

Good Day.

I have to admit that I'm very confused.

I ran my updates last week and the windows ones were fine, but I didn't seem to
get any of the office patches. Even after re-running the update, I'm not seeing
any of the latest office 2013 x64 patches anywhere.

I haven't changed anything other than updating to the latest wsusoffline.
The boxes for Win10 x64 and o2k13 have always been checked.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

Cheers.
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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby aker » 20.01.2018, 01:11

Please first check, if your Office installation is a Click2Run-installation.
See this post: :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5861#p20080
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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby administratorte » 20.01.2018, 01:28

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

No, my office 2013 install is not a c2r.

Regardless, shouldn't the x64 patches be downloaded somewhere if the o2k13 box
is checked? I don't see anything like that anywhere in the tree where its all being
saved to.

I used 11.0.3 in December and didn't notice any issues. I upgraded to 11.1.x
before starting the January round.

Thanks again.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby Dalai » 20.01.2018, 04:05

Did you run wsusoffline\cmd\AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd? WSUS Offline doesn't download Office x64 updates by default.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby administratorte » 21.01.2018, 20:16

Hi. Thanks for replying.

Is needing to run AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd a new requirement?

I inspected a random machine from the last time I patched, Dec 13.

It had 4011590 installed, the Word 2013 x64 Dec security patch, dated Dec 13,
along with other Office 2013 patches dated Dec 13.

There were a total of 50 patches installed for Office 2013.

As Windows Update / BITS is disabled and even the updates in Task Manager
have been disabled, there is no way, as far as I can tell, that the updates
could be there other than through WSUSoffline.

So unless this is a new thing for WSUSoffline, I'm very confused as to how,
for example, 4011590 could have been installed if I previously needed to
run AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd, which I hadn't.

Thanks for any insight.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby Dalai » 21.01.2018, 20:49

administratorte wrote:Is needing to run AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd a new requirement?

No, it's been there since at least WSUS Offline 9.1.

So unless this is a new thing for WSUSoffline, I'm very confused as to how,
for example, 4011590 could have been installed if I previously needed to
run AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd, which I hadn't.

It's easy to check: Take a look at C:\Windows\wsusofflineupdate.log for that KB number to see if it got installed by WSUS Offline. If not, it was either installed automatically via Windows Update or by hand. But keep in mind that KB4011590 is available for both Office 32 and 64 bit, and the x64 version is only applicable to Office x64; the Windows architecture doesn't matter.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby administratorte » 22.01.2018, 14:28

You got me.

If the log is correct, wsusoffline is not installing the Office patches.

They are certainly not going in by hand.

Which leads to the conclusion that WU is somehow installing them (or there
is some other method for installing office patches that is unknown to me).
I would believe that if WU was running all the time, but its not. The windows
update logs suggest that the only time it's being run is during the time when
I'm using wsusoffline.

Is it possible that, during the time wsusoffline is running, WU is pulling down
Office patches and installing them as well? That seems unlikely.

Thanks again for your time.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby Dalai » 22.01.2018, 18:12

administratorte wrote:Is it possible that, during the time wsusoffline is running, WU is pulling down
Office patches and installing them as well? That seems unlikely.

IIRC there can only be one search process at the same time.

C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log should say when the update got installed and which client software did it, although this requires a little bit of reading and understanding the log's format. If you're not sure, you can upload this file to some hoster and link to it here.

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby administratorte » 01.02.2018, 15:13

There isn't a usable windowsupdate.log in Windows 10, as far as I can tell. You have
to invoke Get-WindowsUpdateLog in powershell to get something readable, but there
is nothing in there that suggests that WU was ever run outside of the time I
was patching using WSUSoffline (mod the upgrade from 1511 to 1703)

Thanks for your help in uncovering a gap in my understanding. With the
AddOffice2010x64Support.cmd script, the 64-bit patches are there and I'm
content to leave it be for now.

Time to donate again. :)

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Re: Office 2013 patches for January?

Postby Dalai » 01.02.2018, 18:15

administratorte wrote:There isn't a usable windowsupdate.log in Windows 10, as far as I can tell. You have
to invoke Get-WindowsUpdateLog in powershell to get something readable

At first, I didn't want to believe this. Then I took a look at my Win10 1709 test system, and indeed this is all that's in C:\Windows\WindowsUpdate.log:
Code: Select all
Windows Update logs are now generated using ETW (Event Tracing for Windows).
Please run the Get-WindowsUpdateLog PowerShell command to convert ETW traces into a readable WindowsUpdate.log.

For more information, please visit https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=518345
So, to analyze what's wrong, you have to have a running Windows system with a working PowerShell. Good job, MS .... NOT! Because you can't analyze unbootable systems in any way, and even working systems can't be analyzed offline :evil:.

but there is nothing in there that suggests that WU was ever run outside of the time I
was patching using WSUSoffline (mod the upgrade from 1511 to 1703)

Unfortunately I don't have any more ideas...

Time to donate again. :)

Thanks. I'm sure WSUSUpdateAdmin will appreciate it.

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