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wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 12.06.2012, 21:01
by saultdon
When installing microsoft security essentials after that completes, WSUS tries to start the authentication process "wuauserv".

Because I am not connected to the internet when running these updates, starting the "wuauserv" service fails and causes the update to fail as well.

Upon rebooting, security essentials is indeed installed, but update will not continue until I connect to the internet....

Why is that? I thought this was an offline update utility?


Thanks!

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 12.06.2012, 21:36
by Denniss
WOU does not require an internet connection but it requires this service to be running to work properly.

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 13.06.2012, 02:05
by saultdon
Is there a way I can start it, maybe from the cmd line?

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 13.06.2012, 06:17
by aker
Just go to the Service Management and set the State of Windows Update to "Manual"
WSUSOU will Start the service and stop it After updating
But WSUSOU dors Not enable this service

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 13.06.2012, 22:32
by saultdon
So I re-downloaded all the updates and made a new ISO just in case, then installed Win7 on my laptop.

The update stops at the same place!

I checked my "services" tab in the task manager and the required "wuauserv" was active and running... So it should of been found.

Restarting the computer and starting the update again fixes the problem.

Is this a bug maybe?

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 14.06.2012, 07:05
by aker
When did you Start the Update?
If you Start it directly After logging on this Problem might occour.
Waiting One ore two minutes fixes the Problem.
It is caused by the Late Start of wuauserv.
Wsusou Checks the State of the Service at beginning
If you Run wsusou directly After Logon wuauserv will be started After checking its State
Wsusou thinks wuauserv ist stopped and will try to Start it
That does not work because Windows already did this
Then wsusou Stops with the error you reported

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 14.06.2012, 11:43
by -Iwan-
AFAIR the installation of MSSE requires a WGA check.
Without that the installation fails.

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 14.06.2012, 19:39
by boco
Correct, MSSE does the ''Genuine'' check.

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 15.06.2012, 22:35
by saultdon
boco wrote:Correct, MSSE does the ''Genuine'' check.


So because WSSE requires the authentication check, the update fails because this check is done online?
Thought this was an offline updater?

aker wrote:When did you Start the Update?
If you Start it directly After logging on this Problem might occour.
Waiting One ore two minutes fixes the Problem.
It is caused by the Late Start of wuauserv.
Wsusou Checks the State of the Service at beginning
If you Run wsusou directly After Logon wuauserv will be started After checking its State
Wsusou thinks wuauserv ist stopped and will try to Start it
That does not work because Windows already did this
Then wsusou Stops with the error you reported


I start up, then let everything load (HD light no longer blinking, task manager shows CPU near 0 activity etc...)
Then I start the update.
Where the update freezes is strange because like I said, the required service wuauserv is running in the task manager.

When wsusuo checks for the service, and it is running, shouldn't the process continue and not bail?

Re: wsus requires internet connection...

PostPosted: 16.06.2012, 11:17
by aker
Could you run .\client\DetermineSystemsProperties.vbs with administrative rights and post the content of the file "%temp%\SetSystemEnvVars.cmd" after runnind the vbs-file.
There sohuld be lines like this
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set AU_SVC_STATE_INITIAL=xxx
set AU_SVC_START_MODE=yyy


If wuauserv is running it should look like this
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set AU_SVC_STATE_INITIAL=Running
set AU_SVC_START_MODE=Auto